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How a rooster knows to crow at dawn - ZME Science

2026-10-03

## Episode Summary In this episode, we cover: - **How a rooster knows to crow at dawn - ZME Science** (Google News: corvid research) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMihwFBVV95cUxNcnV0RFRyNTlZZXpuZVBTRDJxQUstWGdFTFoyQ0FPRUs2NVphTE00bDRxcjh6VGlLQzVjalFaelJVZ2hRM3Y2amFRZFNheE1CX1BycEk4ZlZ5WmxFUE5sV1RaNWk3cW9pM3NWS25ISXVFMm1YcmpndGtsRE1EdVh5SHdTOGFlVzA?oc=5) - **Are crows really that smart? - Sorbonne Université** (Google News: corvid intelligence) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMie0FVX3lxTFBvRUNWNVhnUVpDQWJ1b3AySHFtNHlfc2xTR0Z5OTFSWVN2M0h4OUtTeXJpeHEtNDh2NkZROFZKQUQya2tXZnU2d1VXYVY3cDJ6c1A0ZE1WcWJJcHZ3NGJKSEt4aEJ6eUtYaVU4eGdvbldudUYxSHZJVHd4Yw?oc=5) - **Crows can solve a tricky puzzle box by planning ahead and using tools - New Scientist** (Google News: corvid tool use) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMitgFBVV95cUxQV24wUWlJb25hb28zbUVLUDRGQTBNM1lDaGIybHdINi01OUFjLUlJdng4UWN4MWtJN05hdHNqZl9uRFRtbFlVT3YwZ3lvWm5iTDllRU4xMmtvN0Q4VHFBTGJuQk9HT0FqUkpXU3hEcDlfbkNUYks4aXRrQjZrdDZsUzlnQkp0dXlESHJfeEE2RlJyNXJ2ekdQX2t4TVhxZ3Nadld5ZlhEcDBZT0hMSU83T0pSbzZjUQ?oc=5) - **Are ravens as smart (or smarter) than us? - bbcearth.com** (Google News: corvid tool use) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMid0FVX3lxTFB0T1V4MTQ4YVJaUFFVWWdMRUNUcExGMTZRcUlQbWVqUUVmNzNjR2Y5ZmdOTl9PT2xoczVzWTM3ZmFnZ2RvT0s1c3VJSG1vanFPTnpRV3JMcWNLX04yTVk0V2xtR1hjaWpyWXFiOVJZajZIY3hRNEJZ?oc=5) - **Crow Intelligence - California Academy of Sciences** (Google News: corvid intelligence) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMibEFVX3lxTE1kZEM1MFE1elJUbHBoaXYxMUxLU181aTE0ZzBhaW1NSEE0M3pUNlV0TWlPcUdqRkt0dFVnSVRqaXJWTE9IYUs5VERGSjdsMmdUR1dkVHVZOGdGanFNSkV3N1NkZ210T3VEY1pFV9IBckFVX3lxTFBneEZsNHBneDBTRmJKMkhiNmlJNGduNXVtelVrUWJFNTJ3MkdwYlppNFlXeW9OaC14VndaaUluTDNfendLdDA0UWJ3ZEZ3cnVoRlU3a04wQWVuYVdNSzhJVHBNVFhYaVlPV3U5YmdiZGFDQQ?oc=5) --- *Sponsored by Ada, Ago Consulting, and Zen Semiconductor*

Full transcript

Wren: Welcome back to Bird Brains — the show that takes the worst insult you could throw at a creature and turns it into the highest possible compliment. I'm Wren, ornithologist, corvid obsessive, and your guide to the surprisingly rich inner lives of crows, ravens, magpies, and jays. Huge thank you to today's sponsors: Ada, who help businesses integrate A I into their workflows in ways that actually make sense; Ago Consulting — that's "Ahh-Go" — silicon development experts covering everything from A I to SoC; and Zen Semiconductor, an umbrella company with a remarkable portfolio spanning the silicon industry. We couldn't do this without them. Now — today on the show, we've got crows cracking puzzle boxes with tools they planned ahead to bring, we've got the science of what's actually going on inside that compact little skull, and we've got a story about the relationship between corvids and people that might just make you want to leave some peanuts on your windowsill. Let's get into it. Wren: Okay, so — thread one. Corvid cleverness. And I want to start with a study that genuinely made me put my coffee down and just stare at the wall for a moment. Researchers presented crows with what's called a puzzle box — a container holding a food reward that the crow couldn't just peck open. To get the food, the crow had to use a specific tool. But here's the twist — the tool wasn't right there next to the box. The crow had to go and get it from another location first. So what we're asking is: can a crow plan ahead? Can it think, okay, I'm going to need that stick later, so I'd better pick it up now, even though I don't need it yet? And the answer, reported in New Scientist, is yes. Crows did exactly that. They retrieved the right tool in advance and then used it to unlock the puzzle box. Now, why does that matter so much? Because planning for a future event — a future you, in a future situation, needing a future thing — requires a kind of mental time travel. You have to imagine a scenario that hasn't happened yet and act in the present to prepare for it. For a long time, scientists thought that was uniquely human. We thought it might even be what separates us from other animals. And then a crow showed up with a stick it had collected specifically for a box it hadn't opened yet, and quietly dismantled that assumption. What I love about this finding is that it's not just clever in a cute party-trick way. It's clever in a philosophically significant way. These crows aren't just reacting to the world — they're anticipating it. They're modeling a future state and working backwards to figure out what they need to do right now. That is planning. That is, by almost any definition, intelligence. And it's happening in a bird whose entire brain is smaller than your thumb. Wren: Now let's talk about what's actually going on inside that tiny skull — because thread two is all about how corvid minds work, and this is where things get really interesting. For decades, the assumption was that intelligence lived in the neocortex — the big, wrinkled outer layer of the mammalian brain. Birds don't have a neocortex. So the thinking was, well, birds can't be that smart. Case closed. Except — the case was not closed. Not even a little. Researchers, including work highlighted by the Sorbonne Université, have been digging into corvid cognition and finding that crows have a brain region called the pallium that performs remarkably similar functions to our neocortex, just structured differently. Evolution found a different route to the same destination. It's like how you can build a bridge out of steel or out of wood — the materials look nothing alike, but you end up crossing the same river. And the California Academy of Sciences has been vocal about this too — pointing out that crow intelligence isn't some quirky outlier. It's a deep, well-documented phenomenon. Crows recognize individual human faces. They remember which humans have been kind to them and which ones have been threatening — and they pass that information to their offspring. There's well-documented research out of the University of Washington where scientists wore specific masks while trapping crows, and for years afterward, those crows — and their young — would scold and dive-bomb anyone wearing that mask, even as the flock changed over generations. That's not instinct. That's cultural transmission of learned information. That's teaching. And then there's food caching — the behavior where corvids hide food for later. Scrub jays, for instance, don't just hide food randomly. They remember thousands of hiding spots. They also know if another bird was watching when they cached their food, and if so, they'll go back and move it when that bird is gone. Think about what that requires. A theory of mind. An understanding that another individual has knowledge — and that knowledge is a threat. That's sophisticated social cognition, and it's sitting right there in a jay. Wren: Alright, thread three — and this is my favorite kind of story — the corvid-and-people story. Because sometimes all the lab science in the world is less convincing than a single, documented, real-world relationship between a bird and a human. So let me tell you about gift-giving crows. This is a well-documented phenomenon, not just anecdote. There's a family in Seattle — the Garbage family, actually named Gabi Mann and her parents — who became famous for their relationship with the local crows. Gabi started feeding the crows as a small child, and over time, the crows began leaving things for her. Small objects. A piece of glass. A button. A small charm. Consistently, repeatedly, over years. Wildlife biologist John Marzluff at the University of Washington, who has spent his career studying crow cognition, has spoken about this at length — crows understand reciprocity. They understand social debt. They recognize a benefactor and they respond in kind, with whatever currency they have available, which apparently is shiny objects and the occasional crab claw. And then there are ravens — BBC Earth has done wonderful reporting on raven intelligence, raising the question of whether ravens might rival, or in some cognitive tasks even exceed, what we'd expect of primates. Ravens engage in what researchers call tactical deception — actively misleading other ravens about where food is hidden. They comfort each other after conflicts. They hold what look remarkably like grudges. And they form long-term pair bonds, working together with a partner across years, in ways that look startlingly like cooperation between equals. One researcher described watching a raven pair problem-solve together — one bird would hold an object steady while the other worked on it. Division of labor. Teamwork. In birds. What I keep coming back to is that corvids didn't evolve in a laboratory. Their intelligence evolved because it was useful — in the real, complicated, socially messy, unpredictable world. Their smarts aren't tricks. They're survival tools, honed over millions of years, that just happen to look a lot like wisdom. Wren: And that brings me to where I always want to leave you — with this idea that intelligence is not a single thing that lives in one kind of skull. It's a solution to a problem. And life has found that solution over and over again, in different shapes, with different hardware, following different evolutionary paths. The crow doesn't know it's impressive. It's just trying to eat, stay safe, and look out for the ones it loves — which, honestly, sounds pretty relatable. This episode of Bird Brains is brought to you by Ada, Ago Consulting, and Zen Semiconductor — three companies that, fittingly, know a thing or two about building intelligence into unexpected places. If today's episode made you look at a crow a little differently, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who still thinks bird brain is an insult — we'll set them straight. Show notes have links to all the research and sources we talked about today. Until next time, stay curious, keep looking up, and remember — the smartest thing in your backyard might just be watching you right back.
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