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Your next pair of Tweezers might be inspired by a crow’s beak - Big Think

2026-10-14

## Episode Summary In this episode, we cover: - **Your next pair of Tweezers might be inspired by a crow’s beak - Big Think** (Google News: corvid tool use) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMiWkFVX3lxTFBKeWdYOVdkNDJKZ3ZzVHFSUk1TdDllX2RaU2c3NHAtd1NXRHN3dlB0LXk4Q0NCczl3ZC1pU0Jkb2VYNTM5M0pBcnVxbjdEOEo0MV8waFo3eTJNUQ?oc=5) - **Statistician helps decode wild dining relationship - MSU Denver - Early Bird** (Google News: corvid research) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMigAFBVV95cUxOaGhkd2VpWElpM0tuRXZmdy1malhpYXh1eEtLTzFqb2lOdHhGbm5uelBvcDdPb052R3huNnk2SjNPV1V5SE1uT1lpbXF6SExGa0s2ZlI3cVVjMjNfdThYcng1SEcxLXljaWl0bHVvOGlJNFNSa19wa1hEN1BCYk5MVQ?oc=5) - **Carrion crows can create, prepare, and use tools with great precision - Earth.com** (Google News: corvid tool use) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMinwFBVV95cUxNYjV0ZnFMUzZiRDlSeVVPSkVORUpUVHg5ZUljTXNBTnRUVnJ1SHhZQzdkM0NGb3JyUDZUWm5KWWdGQ2hZVzNfYjdmeTlDV0dWa21FVThtb3NHc2JJLWhONGhQMzhMaUR3UFVSU19obEcydUpnU3Z3eW5Vb2ZaRm1jOUZMclB6Y0hMR25zd0VNdHNQMU1OTlpwaVdXbWJGbFk?oc=5) - **How America built an AI tool to predict Taliban attacks - The Economist** (Google News: corvid intelligence) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMitgFBVV95cUxNS1o3SThyQjVacWY4dkVQam9hbnJWc2hGRE1wWG9HeXZmTWU5UlFqV1RVcnNYZ25YNHppb05tZlZUSVJNSG5LcGtqelJKZXVhSFQxejBjbGJUMTZyR1YycFlTRUs1WFJidVJ6aV9OVC1VNjc3bUtTMkxSbXpaemh3TFhUWGEyNXNjVkZZU3IyWW9JWGJNc0NuTV96dnpFZHhkak13NjlXUmM4ZHE3ZVY3M19LWjNZdw?oc=5) - **You’re Probably More Like a Crow than You Thought - Goodness Exchange** (Google News: corvid intelligence) - [Read more](https://news.google.com/rss/articles/CBMiXEFVX3lxTE51T1NTXzJYQVdsdUNscnhGbmZoRGYxbDBjaEZBTEZJTGZEOFBKdE9XbDA2RU9aVmUyaW5iZlJ5R1h6TXNLbk1EQnRycGtmRTEtSU54empWXzRrME04?oc=5) --- *Sponsored by Ada, Ago Consulting, and Zen Semiconductor*

Full transcript

Wren: Hey there, and welcome to Bird Brains — the show where being called a bird brain is absolutely, one hundred percent a compliment. I'm Wren, ornithologist, corvid obsessive, and your guide to the surprisingly rich inner lives of crows, ravens, magpies, and jays. Today we've got a genuinely great lineup — we're talking about crows that make precision tools, what that tells us about the minds inside those sleek little heads, and the very human-like ways corvids weave themselves into our lives. But first, a huge thank you to our sponsors: Ada, who helps clients integrate A I into their workflows; Ago Consulting — pronounced "Ahh-Go" — your go-to for silicon development consulting from A I all the way to SoC; and Zen Semiconductor, an umbrella company with a stellar portfolio across the silicon industry. Couldn't do this without them. Alright — let's get into it. Wren: So, thread one. Corvid cleverness. And I want to start with something that genuinely made me put my coffee down when I read it. There's a story making the rounds right now about how your next pair of tweezers — like, actual surgical or lab tweezers — might be inspired by a crow's beak. And honestly? That tracks completely. Because what researchers have been documenting with carrion crows in particular is not just tool use in the loose, casual sense. It's not a crow poking a stick into a hole and calling it a day. It's tool manufacture. It's preparation. It's precision. Wren: Carrion crows — Corvus corone, if you want the full name — have been observed not just picking up objects and using them, but actively modifying materials to make them more effective. They'll take a twig, strip it, shape it, sometimes bend it, to get it to do exactly what they need it to do. And what they need it to do is often incredibly specific — extracting an insect from a crevice, or probing for food in a spot their beak can't quite reach. The beak itself, by the way, is an engineering marvel. It's tapered, strong, and incredibly sensitive at the tip. So when researchers and engineers started thinking about designing better tweezers — tools that can grip delicate things without crushing them — the crow beak became a serious reference point. Nature got there first. Again. Wren: Now, what makes this even more remarkable is the planning involved. To make a tool, you have to hold a goal in your mind. You have to look at a raw twig and think — not in words, obviously, but in some functional cognitive sense — "this isn't right yet, but it could be." That's not reflex. That's not instinct in the simple sense. That is mental representation of a future state. Scientists call this means-end reasoning, and for a long time we thought it was pretty much a human thing, maybe a great ape thing. Corvids blew that assumption apart. Wren: And here's the kicker — carrion crows do this with great precision, as the Earth.com reporting puts it. Not approximately. Not roughly. Precisely. They adjust the angle of a tool. They test it. If it doesn't work, they modify it further. There's a feedback loop happening. There's something that looks a lot like evaluation and refinement. In a bird. With a brain the size of a walnut. That walnut is doing a lot of work, my friends. Wren: Alright, thread two. How their minds actually work. Because "they're smart" is fun to say, but the science of why and how is where it gets really mind-bending. Wren: So here's the thing that tripped up scientists for decades. We used to measure animal intelligence largely by brain size relative to body size, and by the presence of the neocortex — that wrinkly outer layer of the mammalian brain that handles things like planning, decision-making, and complex thought. Birds don't have a neocortex. At all. So for a long time, the assumption was, well, birds can't be doing anything too sophisticated up there. And then corvids came along and basically laughed at that assumption. Wren: What birds have instead is a region called the pallium, and specifically in corvids, a part of it called the nidopallium caudolaterale — which is a terrible name, honestly, but what it does is remarkable. It functions analogously to the prefrontal cortex in mammals. Same job, completely different architecture. Evolution found two separate routes to the same destination. And the neuron density in corvid brains is extraordinary — some studies have found that crow and raven brains pack in neurons at a density comparable to primates, even though the brains themselves are much smaller. Wren: What does that mean in practice? It means corvids can do things like cache food — hide it, remember where they hid it, and crucially, remember when they hid it and whether it might have spoiled by now. That's episodic-like memory. That's a sense of time. Western scrub jays — now called California scrub jays — were the subject of some landmark work by Nicola Clayton and her colleagues at Cambridge, showing that these birds don't just remember where food is, they remember what kind of food it was and when they cached it. If they know a perishable item like a worm has been cached long enough to have gone bad, they'll preferentially go retrieve the nuts instead. They are managing their pantry based on a mental timeline. Wren: And there's a social layer to this that makes it even richer. Scrub jays, when they're caching food, will actually re-hide items if they noticed another bird watching them. They understand that the other bird might steal their stash. But here's the twist — only birds that have stolen food themselves show this behavior. Birds that have never pilfered someone else's cache don't seem to worry about it happening to them. It's like they're projecting their own past behavior onto others. That's a form of mental state attribution — a building block of what we call theory of mind — and it's something we really didn't expect to find outside of primates. Wren: There's also a wonderful new piece of research highlighted out of MSU Denver, where a statistician has been helping decode what they're calling a "wild dining relationship" in corvids. I love that this involves a statistician, because it speaks to how seriously the scientific community is now taking corvid social behavior — it's complex enough that you need serious quantitative tools to untangle it. The feeding relationships and social dynamics in wild corvid groups are not random. There's structure there. There's history. There's something that looks a lot like relationship management happening at the level of a wild population. Science is just starting to have the tools to see it clearly. Wren: Okay, thread three. My favorite thread. Corvids and people. Wren: There's a piece floating around right now with the headline "You're Probably More Like a Crow Than You Thought," and I want to sit with that for a second, because it's not just a cute clickbait title — it's actually pointing at something real. The parallels between corvid social intelligence and human social intelligence are striking enough that researchers use them to ask big questions about how complex minds evolve. But beyond the science, there are these extraordinary documented stories of crows and humans forming genuine relationships. And I don't mean that loosely. Wren: The most famous example — and it's been covered by researchers and journalists alike — is probably Gabi Mann, a girl in Seattle who started leaving food for the crows in her neighborhood when she was about four years old. By the time she was eight, the crows were bringing her gifts. Little shiny things. A piece of glass, a button, a small screw, a piece of jewelry. Her family kept them in labeled bags noting the date and circumstances of each gift. Ornithologist John Marzluff at the University of Washington, who has spent decades studying crow cognition and crow-human relationships, confirmed that this kind of reciprocal exchange behavior is consistent with what we know about how crows build and maintain social bonds. They're not just taking food. They're participating in a relationship. Wren: And the face recognition piece is central to all of this. Marzluff's team ran experiments where they wore specific masks while trapping and banding crows — a stressful experience for the birds — and found that the crows remembered those mask-wearing faces and scolded those people for years afterward. Not just the original birds — they taught their offspring and flock members to scold those faces too. Cultural transmission of a grudge. Across generations. That is genuinely extraordinary. Wren: Ravens take this even further in some ways. There's work showing that ravens in the wild maintain long-term social bonds — not just with family members, but with what researchers describe as allies. They track who helped them, who cheated them, and they adjust their behavior accordingly. They console each other after conflicts. They reconcile. If you've ever watched two ravens interact for any length of time, there's a texture to it, a back-and-forth, that feels qualitatively different from what we tend to think of as "animal behavior." It feels like social navigation. Because that's exactly what it is. Wren: Urban crows in particular have developed what some researchers call cultural behaviors — habits and techniques that spread through local populations and differ from one city to the next. Crows in Japan famously learned to place walnuts on roads for cars to crack, then wait for the lights to change before retrieving them. That behavior spread. It was observed, replicated, passed along. That's culture. That's not instinct. And these birds are doing it in our cities, in our spaces, alongside us — and most of us walk right past them without a second glance. Wren: Maybe that's the thing I want to leave you with today. Intelligence — real, flexible, social, creative intelligence — didn't evolve once and then stop. It kept finding new shapes, new architectures, new expressions. It's in those glossy black birds watching you from the telephone wire. It's in the magpie that recognizes itself in a mirror. It's in the jay that hides your future lunch while watching over its shoulder. We share this planet with minds that surprise us, if we're willing to pay attention. Wren: Bird Brains, brought to you by Ada, Ago Consulting, and Zen Semiconductor — three teams that know a thing or two about building smart systems. Maybe they should consult a crow. Stay curious out there, folks. Subscribe if you haven't, share the show with someone who still thinks "bird brain" is an insult — we'll fix that — and check the link in show notes for everything we talked about today. I'm Wren. See you next time.
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